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Reply tw
4:14 AM on April 18, 2012 
O'siyo Tom,
We wish to thank you many time over for your great help as we realy want to do thing the right way. We also are trying to buy 6,000 ac of land for our tribal land and we will be setting up a stomp dance area with help so it will be set up the proper way. Again thank you
Tw Davis
Reply Jisdu
9:49 PM on April 17, 2012 
I poked about some but havnt seen a good pic yet. The ones they show as a part of the Oconalufte Village display are not right . If you look closely they are using water turtrles instead of box turtles. also they are not any way sturdy enough. Our women would have then blown apart by the second dance. LOL
A Mika is more like a chief from what I understand though I have heard it used in relation to an elder. At a Kituwah Grounds it is usually the Speaker that calls folks out to dance though it may also be the Chief , Second Chief or any one that the Chief designates.
A stomp dance is a considerable undertaking. A stompdance is more than just a dance. It is the entire ceremony. Meals , ballgame , medicine etc are all part of the dance. A real stomp only takes place at a ceremonial grounds. Dances are sometimes held else where but they are considered as an exibition or demonstration and do not include the medicine. Forming a new Ceremonial Grounds is some thing that takes a good deal of time and effort. Untill It is accepted it is only considered as a "practice grounds"
More latter but for now its bed time
Donadagohvi, Tom
Reply Jisdu
2:36 PM on April 15, 2012 
I know a bit about making them but not being a daksi I havnt needed a set myself. The minimum is five. This would be for a child or beginner. Most women have at least thirteen per leg. Garnet can be used but flint pebbles are what is mostly used around here. I dont think the type of stone has any significance . Its more a matter of size and hardness. The mounting leather can be of any sort but it needs to be fairly stiff or the turtles will sag as the leather streaches. Many here abouts are mounted on old boot tops. The main thing is that it is sturdy enough to be laced down TIGHT!! The women say that when you start to lose feeling in your feet they are tight enough. They have to be tight or the stretch in the laces as well as the compressing of the pads will make them slip down. They should never be allowed to touch the ground or they will have to be redoctored.
The rules for cans do not apply as they do for turtles. Most will observe the rules even for cans to instill the habit.of careing for them properly. You may find some pictures of old sets on line that will tell you more of their construction than I can put into words.
The only other thing I can think to add is to make sure that the turtles are treated respectfully. The meat should never be eaten but given proper burial. They should NEVER be worn or touched by a woman who is on her moon or pregnant even if they are her own set..Also NO ONE other than a womans husband or a close member of her Clan( preferably female) should touch them for any reason.
Thats all I can think of for now.
Wado, Jisdu
Reply Jisdu
10:42 AM on April 15, 2012 
I dont know of any on line resources for making shells or cans. Folks here just learn from one another. Those who know how to properly make the turtles are fewer and fewer it seems. Lots of cans at Four Mothers grounds for those beginning to shake. We allow cans for girls under 14 and for beginners with less than 2 years experience.
Even with shells good teachers and song leaders are needed as well. I will poke around some and see what there is but there may not be much.
Wado, Jisdu
Reply Young Bear
9:26 PM on November 28, 2010 
wa-do i am so honored to be invited to join :)
Reply tw
9:46 AM on September 30, 2010 
don't forget to tell all about our site
Reply Zerita
2:22 AM on September 22, 2010 
Timberwolf, I will enjoy watching this site grow. Can not wait to see what is next my friend : )

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